Wednesday, March 08, 2006
Gay Games Over Crystal Lake Park District Hurdle; Crystal Lake and Lakewood To Go
One representative of that majority viewpoint was Cheri Cribbet, who lives on McHenry Avenue. She chastised the board for bringing the matter back for a second vote.
Julie Billemack of Lakewood expressed support of the Gay Games.
He said he has been asked by a reporter what Jesus would say tonight to the board.
Anderson spoke of God’s will being done.
She offered thanks to the park board “for the opportunity to salvage our reputation.”
Smith pooh-poohed any potential problems, saying there were as unlikely as someone having “sex on your lawn.”
she said before asking,
The lawyer from a top-flight municipal law firm, Glick, etc., gave me what I considered a gobble-de-gook answer. Afterwards, Board President Sullivan and he spent a lot of time conversing before the vote, when they decided to follow Robert’s Rules of Order, which I read out loud. I can’t wait to see any work product the park board attorney produced on the legality to vote a second time without a motion to reconsider.
Terry Leer (spelling?) followed me and announced,
“Voting ‘No’ on the Gay Games is unconstitutional,” she concluded.
Peter LaBarbera, the executive director of the Illinois Family Institute, cited the advertising on the Gay Games web site by Man’s Country and Steam Works, which he said were 24-hour bath houses.
Lori Fagan, saying she had lived in Crystal Lake over 13 years, thanked the board for
Karen Hopp of Crystal Lake criticized the park board for having no policies on lake use.
A McHenry woman whose name I did not catch supported the Games, suggesting
Sixty-year resident attorney Jim Bishop led off the comments. A participant of “lake wars,” he said,
Pat Pierce of Crystal Lake put a face on those participating in the Gay Games. She will play softball in Chicago.
Kevin Coles, a Crystal Lake resident since 1991 was brief.
Dan Diamond, a 22-year resident expressed his opposition.
28-year resident Ann Benard said,
Linda Rogen got off one of the most humorous comments,
“I’ve never done an infectious disease consult on a rowing contest,” he said.
Resident Charles Biederman (spelling?) proposed an alternative use of the lake the weekend of July 15th and 16th—Family Fest 2006.
He asked that his proposal be considered before a second vote on the Gay Games. His request was ignored.
Also asking about a second vote was Andrew Weld.
“See. That’s the hate, the hate I spoke of.”
I’m really disappointed you would bring all of this mess…back up again. This is a community of traditional values.Accepting for purposes of argument a claim made by one supporter than 10% of Crystal Lake is gay, she asked,
Why do you want to be used by outside groups of 10% of our community?She rejected the Northwest Herald’s claim that “this is a small part” of the Gay Games.
That’s ludicrous! You think they are not going to come and support it? We will have thousands. I happen to live on McHenry Avenue and we definitely don’t need any more traffic.Following her was former public school administrator Michael Lukens (didn’t catch his hometown or get the spelling of his name). He pointed out that the
I see what’s in this for the gay supporter. If they manage to bring this to Crystal Lake, this will be a major win for them.
Gay Games are estimated to bring $80 million dollars to Chicago. One-half of one percent would be $400,000, he pointed out.I believe business in our community would welcome the additional revenue.He also estimated (using a 5% figure for the gay population) that
722 of Crystal Lake’s children are gay, that “22.4% of them will attempt suicide” and that the Gay Games would “present a positive image of gay youth in our community.”Crystal Lake’s Dave Hammelstock (spelling?) was one commenter who asked how the Gay Games could comport with the park district’s mission statement.
This is about outsiders who have a political agenda,Another, Mary Elger, also addressed the district’s mission statement “to enhance the quality of life in Crystal Lake.” She wanted to know “how this particular event would fit into that mission statement?”
he said while asking how the Games “would provide a safe leisure environment?”
Julie Billemack of Lakewood expressed support of the Gay Games.
We’re boat owners….I think it’s a great opportunity to (enjoy the lake) to the fullestDeb Hale of Palatine, a member of PFLAG, a gay and lesbian support group, related how her group had participated in the Palatine parade and “run kiddy games.”
Plainfield resident John Larsen, another PFLAG member was also in town for his second meeting within a week.Palatine has not sunken into the earth.
It’s about the benefits gay people have about coming out and showing gay people are just like anyone else.Pastor Joel Anderson, leader of the 900-member Harvest Bible Church said,
The games themselves have really set the agenda. My concern relates to those collateral issues that have nothing to do with the event.’ (I was taking his picture and didn’t get much down on paper.)Anderson suggested “blending love and acceptance of all without confusing it with the acceptance of the behavior.”
He said he has been asked by a reporter what Jesus would say tonight to the board.
I think he would say nothing,he replied and, then, talked about all of us having sinned and needing forgiveness.
There will be those on both sides who will represent their sides (badly). He pledged to be among those who would intervene, if those calling themselves Christians behaved badly.“Truth without love is brutality. Love without truth is hypocrisy.”
Anderson spoke of God’s will being done.
We are ready to welcome whatever He has for this community.David Collins urged,
Leave the values out of it. Acceptance of intolerance. Those are my family values.Withering in his criticism of Gay Games attendance projects was Paul Guymon:
If this is setting some kind of a precedent, bring them on—Macho Christians (he had other catchy suggestions)—bring ‘em all on.
If nothing else, there would probably be over 100 media at the event…It has the potential for bringing thousands of people into Crystal Lake.Brittani Smith, who identified herself as a Marian (Catholic) Central student and daughter of a Lakewood Village Trustee, spoke in favor of the Gay Games.
She offered thanks to the park board “for the opportunity to salvage our reputation.”
Smith pooh-poohed any potential problems, saying there were as unlikely as someone having “sex on your lawn.”
Your children all belong to a more accepting generation than your own. Set an example for your children of love and compassion. Do away with all the hate in your heart.“To the young lady who said we do not have to shield our children. I’m sorry but (that’s what I do), rebutted 3-year resident Lisa Hartel.
If it was strictly about rowing, we wouldn’t see gay signs all over.
I’m very tolerant. A friend sent me an email and I was absolutely outraged at what he saw. He literally threw his coat over his children’s heads (to protect them from the indecency he saw at the Gay Pride Parade).
As a faith-based person, I want you to know I’m praying for you,
she said before asking,
Is it really legal to re-vote this?I followed Hartel to the microphone and, among other things—all related to the rowing contest and the board’s consideration thereof—asked how they could reconsider the motion that had failed without someone on the prevailing side’s making such a motion.
The lawyer from a top-flight municipal law firm, Glick, etc., gave me what I considered a gobble-de-gook answer. Afterwards, Board President Sullivan and he spent a lot of time conversing before the vote, when they decided to follow Robert’s Rules of Order, which I read out loud. I can’t wait to see any work product the park board attorney produced on the legality to vote a second time without a motion to reconsider. Terry Leer (spelling?) followed me and announced,
I’m a taxpaying lesbian (with) a right to organize and congregate. She wondered what a traditional family value was and talked of the “absolute nightmares" CABA and the cardboard boat regatta were.she added, stepping a bit into city council business.
I’ve seen the city annex every conceivable farm parcel,
“Voting ‘No’ on the Gay Games is unconstitutional,” she concluded.
Peter LaBarbera, the executive director of the Illinois Family Institute, cited the advertising on the Gay Games web site by Man’s Country and Steam Works, which he said were 24-hour bath houses.
I don’t think the cardboard regatta would have a bathhouse as a sponsor.LaBarbera’s group is spearheading the gathering of signatures to put an advisory referendum on the ballot asking the state legislature to define marriage as between a man and a women.
The Gay Games are part of Mayor Daley’s agenda, but it’s not part of your community’s agenda.
Lori Fagan, saying she had lived in Crystal Lake over 13 years, thanked the board for
offering this forum and not shoving this through without hearing our opinion.Quoting Martin Luther King on the “arc of justice,” she said, the “eyes of the world are on you. How will you answer them?”
I pay taxes, too. There are many more gay people here than who live in Crystal Lake.
If the lake has ever been used by outside groups, you will be risking a law suit. If you discriminate here, you will surely have that lawsuit and in our pockets.
Karen Hopp of Crystal Lake criticized the park board for having no policies on lake use.
If we welcome one group’s request, we have to welcome them all.She related that the park district was formed 75 years ago to protect the Main Beach.
It was to preserve it for Crystal Lake residents. We don’t have to showcase Crystal Lake to anyone. It showcases itself.Ann Fredericks of Broadway, a 16-year resident, complained about the quality of the lake.
Let’s stick to the rules and regulations in place to protect the lake.Twenty-two year gay Jaycee Bob Donolly (probably spelled wrong) said he was a 44-year Crystal Lake resident who had helped out with junior bowling for 21 years.
It upsets me to see the reaction to the rowing (contests).He talked about the distortions by objectors, e.g., how the whole lake would not be closed and how the park district was not ordering Crystal Lake or Lakewood to do anything.
A member of the board said, “Let the courts decide.” I don’t want my money going for that.Crystal Laker Doren Patton (spelling?) said he had moved from California to Crystal Lake after researching towns throughout the Northwest Suburbs.
Remember the separation of church and state. I’ve heard a lot of Bible thumping here tonight, but it has nothing to do with what you’re being asked to do here tonight.
One thing I’ve learned is that we don’t have very long summers.He pointed to problems with prior Gay Games, concluding,
I really hope you have done due diligence. I urge a ‘No’ vote.Crystal Laker Diana Collins supported the Gay Games, saying she had
moved here six years ago hoping this was a diverse community.Drawing positive reaction, she said,
You guys host what I call the ‘drunkfest.’ The rowing regatta is on a Sunday. Roads will only be closed a few hours in the morning and the evening.Southside resident Kathy Pribyl disagreed with Commission Michael Zellman’s statement about human rights being at the core of the issue.
I’m a thirty-year resident and you have brought us out of the woodwork.County Club Additions Property Owners Association resident Diane Searles asked whether the park board would grant a regatta permit to the Polish American Union or an Irish ethnic group (her own).
I’m a boat owner, too. Holding an event like this will take a day away from us.
If the park district wants to sell the use of our lake to others, is it willing to give us a rebate?
I would appeal to you to keep the best interests of the residents in mind and vote against this.
I don’t think so.
Our beaches and our neighborhoods bear the brunt of your decision.
A McHenry woman whose name I did not catch supported the Games, suggestingYour son or daughter could come up to you and say gut wrenching words. “Mom, Dad. I have something to tell you. I’m gay.”Brenda Klockenga said
We are worried about public decency. (I have seen) videos of a sex act being performed on a float (in a Gay Pride Parade) on full public view. If we are going to read the law, we should read all of it.Criticizing some public official who has had media exposure on the issue, Klockenga added,
If it’s all about rowing, why not just talk about rowing?
I am so disappointed at the comments made about opponents, especially by public officials.She also suggested that people ought to look at what is on the blogs. (I'll post something mild on a blog about Commissioner Scott Breeden, who said that when he got to his computer at six AM Friday.
I found I had made a terrible, terrible mistake. I made my decision based on the activity on the lake. It’s protecting the people who live near me. I believed you when you said it was about rowing.he concluded after reading his email.
It is not about rowing,
If you want to see me get upset, threaten me.Check out the blogs for yourself by clicking here.
Sixty-year resident attorney Jim Bishop led off the comments. A participant of “lake wars,” he said,
All I every heard was the lake was too small. Never before has the lake been closed for an event that takes up the whole lake so the people from outside of the Crystal Lake Park District and our community (can use it).Joe Edwards made his second presentation on the Games.
We have had an ordinance for twenty years to prohibit powerboats…(No other) event closes 20% of the lake.
We don’t give a rat’s (next there was a significant pause) about the social issue. I urge you to vote against this proposal so the residents of this community can use the lake.

To the board I direct not a request, but a demand that the decency laws are followed in Crystal Lake.He pointed out that the sexual preference anti-discrimination law said that neither actual nor “perceived” orientation could be discriminated against.
If I chose to take a shower in the female shower, that would be protected.Edwards concluded.
Just because the law is on the books does not make it a wise law,
Pat Pierce of Crystal Lake put a face on those participating in the Gay Games. She will play softball in Chicago.
We just want to have a chance to participate and meet new people.First to incite the crowd was Woodstock resident Tim Williams.
My concern for you as a board is that you make the right decision.and I didn’t catch the rest, but the park district attorney interrupted, saying,
He then went on to talk of a fruit found in the south side of the Red Sea. When eaten, “it was filled with sulfur,” he said. “If you bite this, I…
If people are going to get up and shout out, we are going to have to ask people to leave. We have police officers here.Sue Nushel (spelling?), an 8-year resident, complimented the crowd on its graciousness.
I stand pro the Games. It’s (use of the lake) is a privilege, but it’s something we can offer with conditions. But, I trust the board and its police. If there are problems, they (will take care of them).New Darlington Court resident Grant Croll (spelling?), who has just moved from Hawaii, said,
I agree the Gay Games is about more than games. It’s to catch attention.“It’s not about sexuality. It’s about conduct,” added Croll, who said he had attended two Gay Games. “Overall, it was entertaining.”
Kevin Coles, a Crystal Lake resident since 1991 was brief.
I’m opposed. I think the board has done a lack of due diligence. I would suggest the off-calendar meeting is suspect…He did not finish his sentence. He just let it hang there.
Dan Diamond, a 22-year resident expressed his opposition.
Under my perception Crystal Lake was owned by the park district, Crystal Lake and Lakewood. To bring a boat to Crystal Lake, you have to be a resident.Twenty-year resident Jeff Beebe, from the West End of the lake walked to the microphone wearing a black western hat.
If you start breaking those rules, anyone could come and say, "You’ve done it before, (why not do it again)?"
I don’t think it’s a good idea for anybody. I’m against it.Lakewood resident John Tuohy couldn’t understand why a special meeting should be held because one member
opted not to come to a meeting. I don’t care if he was on vacation or not…It was a done deal last week. But, because one guy who was down in Mexico didn’t like the results, we’ll here tonight.Wife Martha was next up.
This is BS!
I’m with him.She wanted to know how a man from Channel Two had gotten her letter to Board President Jerry Sullivan, but got no answer.
I planned a family part that weekend. Now am I supposed to change my plans? Aren’t we residents supposed to have preference?“The last two individuals must have looked into my pockets,” said George Staziak (spelling?). “I feel the Gay Games are offensive because of the name. They want to be separate and want to be gay. I think it does nothing for the City of Crystal Lake.”
28-year resident Ann Benard said,
I’ve never heard of the lake being loaned out to anyone. What benefit are we going to get from this group?West End resident Tony Buonauro brought the most laughs of the night.
This is about rowing for God’s sake. It’s not about sex. It’s not about AIDS. It’s not religion. It’s about rowing. My family has lived here since 1946. I was conceived in 1946 when my parents summered here. It’s not about making blacks leave town at 5 PM,he said to cheers.
Linda Rogen got off one of the most humorous comments,
Who knew there was so much interest in rowing?One person I didn’t identify said,
You’ve had a lot of time to mull this over. Is it easiest just to vote ‘Yes’ and put it on someone else’s plate?Perhaps the strangest appearance was by an employee of the Illinois Department of Public Health, whose name I did not catch. He was sent in case there were any health questions.
No way are you going to get three governmental bodies to say, ‘Yes.’
“I’ve never done an infectious disease consult on a rowing contest,” he said.
Resident Charles Biederman (spelling?) proposed an alternative use of the lake the weekend of July 15th and 16th—Family Fest 2006.
He asked that his proposal be considered before a second vote on the Gay Games. His request was ignored.
Also asking about a second vote was Andrew Weld.
I don’t understand. Why will you re-vote? This isn’t Chicago.After the attorney tried to explain why a second vote was perfectly normal (my characterization), Welk said,
I would like to suggest you keep the vote as is.As people were leaving Park Place, which was virtually packed with many forced to stand, self-identified street preacher Rick Barnes was handing out “The God Test.” He had previously said that, if the proposal received approval,
I’ll be at the Gay Games not as a participant, but as a street preacher.When he said,
The event is intended to promote an agenda. I belong to a Christian Motorcycle Association. We have an agenda.
Will you be blameless when you stand before God?there were catcalls from some.
“See. That’s the hate, the hate I spoke of.”




