Tuesday, March 05, 2013
McHenry County Board Minutes on Lowering the Salary from$21,500 to $21,000
NEW AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS
11.10 Resolution Amending
Resolution #R-201110-12-250 to Approve Compensation for the County Board
Chairman and the County Board Members
Mr. Breeden made a motion seconded by
Ms. Hill to approve the above-named resolution.
Chairman Koehler asked for any
discussion. Mr. Austin said a math error was discovered on the previously
approved
resolution and this resolution is to
correct that noting that the pay for board members starting 2013 is reduced
from
$21,500 to $21,000.
Ms. Miller said she has heard from
many people since the pay increase was approved who are unhappy about this.
One of their concerns is the fringe
benefits that board members receive so she would like to make a change to this.
Ms. Miller made a motion to amend seconded
by Ms. Salgado to change the health benefits contribution from
board members to 45%.
Ms. Schuster asked if we could do
this. Parliamentarian Jamie Rein said this resolution is only to amend the
compensation being paid and not to
reconsider the entire motion so the motion by Ms. Miller is out of order.
Ms.
Rein said technically this is a
scriveners error. If the board wants to reconsider the complete resolution they
must
take a different route.
Ms. Miller asked if the board could
vote on the compensation amendment then make a motion to reconsider the
resolution. Ms. Rein said you can
only reconsider something on the day that you did it so she believes the entire
resolution would have to rescinded
and start the entire process over; she wowould need to check Roberts Rules on
this.
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Chairman Koehler said we will take
Ms. Rein’s opinion right now with Ms. Miller’s motion being out of order.
Chairman Koehler asked if there is
any discussion on the main motion.
Ms. Schuster said does not want to
vote on a new resolution.
Mr. Hammerand asked if we can only
talk about the compensation amount. Ms. Rein said it is her understanding that
this was brought solely for the
purpose of amending the resolution based on a scrivener’s error in the amount
from
$21,500 to be changed to $21,000,
which is the amount she saw in a memo associated with this. If the intent is to
debate this whole thing over again,
then we need to be taking a different process and rescinding it and starting
over.
Mr. Hammerand asked if this is the
salary at the end of this year. Chairman Koehler said that is the ending salary
for
anybody that was on the first tier.
Mr. Austin said the higher end board members will receive $20,988 in FY 2012;
the
Committee of Chairs agreed that they
wanted to freeze that rate and round it to an even number, so they rounded it
up to $21,000, going up $12. That was
to be the number for FY 2013 and 2014 and then see after that. After lengthy
discussion, the board agreed to
freeze the pay for all four years at $21,500. Mr. Hammerand said this did not
come
through Finance and feels this was
taken out of order. Mr. Austin said the original compensation resolution did
not go
through Finance it went only to the
Committee of Chairman, and the direction was to bring it from there to the
County
Board. Mr. Austin said when this
error was identified he spoke with Chairman Koehler and the Finance Chairman
about how to correct this because
$21,500 was not the intent. The direction was to bring it back to the board as
soon
as possible and close this loop.
Chairman Koehler agreed this is just a correction from the $21,500 to $21,000.
Ms. Miller clarified that the only
thing the board is voting on today is the correction on compensation from
$21,500 to
$21,000. Chairman Koehler said yes. A
yes vote will be to accept that correction.
Mr. Provenzano said he is concerned
about what the paper is going to print on this. He has been trying to find a
venue to get his pay frozen at the
current rate and he keeps getting resolutions to give him a pay raise. He will
be
voting against this because it is
still a pay raise. Mr. Austin responded that this full board has agreed to
$21,500
starting fiscal year 2013. If the
board does not vote for this correction the pay will be $500 higher than was
intended
in 2013.
Ms. Yensen is in agreement with Mr.
Provenzano as to perception and she will be voting no again as voters are
against any kind of pay increase.
Ms. Evertsen said when the vote was
taken on this initially she was confused and voted the wrong way and there was
nothing she can do about that.
However, on this she also will be voting no as she and her constituents are
against
any pay increase.
Ms. Donner clarified that there is
nothing the board can do about the raise they are going to get on December 1st,
2011 for 2012 and unless the full
board is reelected they are not giving themselves a raise after that point for
four
years. By making a change to what was
voted on and now being amended, in 2013 the full board will be brought to
one level of pay.
Ms. Hill asked for clarification on
how this resolution was directed to come to the board today to be rectified. It
seems
to her for a scrivener’s error we
shouldn’t be voting on this, it should just be corrected. She asked if there
was a
process for her to remove this and
just get the scrivener’s error corrected. Chairman Koehler said Mr. Austin told
him about the error and they
concurred that it needed to be corrected and it was a joint decision to being
it here.
Ms. Rein said the best thing to do
since it is the expenditure is to take a vote on it. Ms. Rein said if it is the
intent of
the board to rehash the whole thing
then someone would have to do a motion to rescind the entire thing and you
would have to have a two-thirds
majority vote to rescind and start over. If you vote on this resolution board
members
can vote how they choose and then
allow for comment afterwards that board members can state that they stand by
their original vote so that it is
noted in the record.
Mr. Austin said an e-mail was sent to
the paper explaining the error that was made so that hopefully no big article
will
be done again.
Mr. Hammerand said he feels $21,500
is fair. When he has talked to his constituents he has explained things to
them and he took a lot more heat with
the Chairman’s salary than he did on the compensation for County Board
members.
Mr. Bless made a motion to call
the question, seconded by Ms. Hill.
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Chairman Koehler asked for a voice
vote on the motion to call the question, the ayes having it noting a few nays,
the
motion has passed to call the
question.
Chairman Koehler said we are going
back to the original motion to approve 11.10 Resolution Amending Resolution
#R-201110-12-250 to Approve
Compensation for the County Board Chairman and the County Board Members.
The Chairman said this will reduce
the compensation in 2013 from $21,500 to $21,000.
Ms. Miller said when she saw this
back here today she didn’t see this as a scrivener’s error she thought this was
being brought forward for debate and
what we are doing is tying people in to this one portion of it. From her
perspective when this showed up
again, she felt that the whole thing was up for debate not just the correction
being
pointed out.
Chairman Koehler said the question
was called so we must take a vote and apologized as he shouldn’t have allowed
Ms. Miller to comment.
Chairman Koehler asked for a roll
call vote on the motion to approve 11.10 Resolution Amending Resolution #R-
201110-12-250 to Approve Compensation
for the County Board Chairman and the County Board Members
Noting that a yes vote is to lower
the compensation from $21,500 to $21,000, a no vote will keep the compensation
at
the $21,500. The following members
responded aye: Bless, Breeden, Donner, Draffkorn, Heisler, Hill, Jung, Kurtz,
McCann, Merkel, Miller, Nowak,
Peschke, Salgado, Schuster and Koehler. Nay: Yensen, Evertsen, Hammerand and
Schmidt. Absent: Donley, Munaretto,
Provenzano and Wheeler. The vote being sixteen (16) ayes and four(4) nays
noting four (4) absent, the Chairman
declared the motion to approve 11.10 Resolution Amending Resolution #R-
201110-12-250 to Approve Compensation
for the County Board Chairman and the County Board Members
has passed.
Mr. Hammerand made a motion seconded
by Ms. Evertsen to rescind item #11.10 a Resolution Amending
Resolution #R-201110-12-250 to
Approve Compensation for the County Board Chairman and the County
Board Members
Chairman Koehler asked for any
discussion on the motion to rescind this resolution that just passed.
Mr. Hammerand said he feels that
after lengthy discussion on the resolution at the last meeting where the
figures on
that resolution that they considered
were wrong, the County Board members were not aware of what they were
voting
on, he believes the whole resolution
should be reconsidered.
Noting no further discussion, the
Chairman asked for a roll call vote noting that a two-thirds majority vote of
the
people present is needed to approve
to rescind. The following members responded aye: Evertsen, Hammerand,
Miller and Schuster. Nay: Yensen,
Bless, Breeden, Donner, Draffkorn, Heisler, Hill, Jung, Kurtz, McCann, Merkel,
Peschke, Provenzano, Schmidt and
Koehler. Absent: Donley, Munaretto, Nowak, Salgado and Wheeler. The vote
being four (4) ayes and fifteen (15)
nays noting five (5) absent, the Chairman declared the motion to rescind
Agenda
item #11.10 as named above has failed.# posted by Cal Skinner : 7:30 PM
